How to Be an Entrepreneur – From a Reluctant One

Hey everybody, and welcome back to the From Ordinary to Extraordinary Podcast. I’m your host, Victoria Caldwell. And today, we have the honor of speaking with Yasemin Inal, another extraordinary entrepreneur. She’s a certified personal development and high performance coach, and a motivational speaker. She’s the founder of Amplify your Dreams, where she empowers big dreamers to get clear about their goals and dreams so that they can take charge of their lives, become more productive and focus on what truly matters. She also holds an MA in Applied Linguistics from Columbia University and a BA in Journalism and French from Ohio University. So, she’s quite an amazing person and we’re so excited to have her on today, and welcome again. How are you?

Yasemin: Great! Thank you so much. I’m so excited to be here with you, Victoria. Thank you for having me.

Victoria: We finally got to catch up.

Yasemin: Yes, so glad to be here.

Victoria: I’m really happy that we were able to finally connect. I’m a big fan of your work.

Yasemin: Thank you.

Victoria: I know you have quite a bit going on today, but I wanted to get into how your entrepreneurial journey.

Yasemin: Yes.

Victoria: So, you’re from Turkey, originally? Instanbul,Turkey.

Yasemin: That’s right. Yes.

Victoria: Beautiful country.

Yasemin: Thank you.

Victoria: Beautiful country, beautiful people. And I really want to get in, how did you launch into this? ‘Cause I know you were teaching.

Yasemin: That’s right.

Victoria: And I don’t usually see teachers go entrepreneurial, I don’t know. Maybe it’s just me, I haven’t seen so many, but I don’t usually see teachers go this route. So it’s an interesting transition. And so I’m kind of interested in how you made that transition.

Yasemin: Yeah, well it is definitely interesting because I was the kind of person I always say like if someone said, ‘Oh, you should start a business.’ I was like, ‘No, I hate business.’ I was always that type of person, you know. I just always thought that personally, I would never own a business that it wasn’t for me. It wasn’t even in my radar. But the thing is, as I was teaching, you know I taught at various different levels. I taught at middle school level first at high school. And after I received a master’s degree, I start teaching at the college level, which was around 2008. That’s when I started, you know from 2008 ’til 2013, I taught at the college level. So that’s really when like, around 2010-2011 actually. While I was teaching at NC State University you know, I live in North Carolina, so NC State in you know, wolf packs. It’s a pretty big school and I was supposed to teach there. As I was teaching there, I you know, kind of assumed the position of being an advisor for the students because there was really no one assigned for that job. And we had you know, international students in our department. I was teaching English to international students. So, these students had a lot going on for them you know, they had a lot on their plates in a way. And it wasn’t easy for them as it’s every day. They were having language problems; they were having you know, cultural shock, correct, culture shock, and trying to adjust to a new system, and missing their families

Some of them missing their, you know, relationships, like some of them were engaged. And so, they were going through a lot. And I’m the kind of person you know, I like to teach the whole you know, student. I don’t just look at them as like machines, that produces essays or something, right? So for me, it was very important to make sure that they were healthy emotionally, psychologically and you know that they were taking care of themselves. Not just in their studies but they were also thriving outside of their classes, you know. So, I just pretty much volunteered when I had one of the students come to me and say, ‘Yasemin, I can’t do this anymore, I’m going back to my country.’ kind of thing. And that’s when I started, you know like, getting into this coaching business. I didn’t do it as a business at that time. It kind of started as a hobby. But I realized, ‘Oh my God! I love this! I love helping people solve problems.’

You know, I love talking to them about what they can do, how can do it better. And just really help them within their life skills, rather than just teaching them English in class. You know, teaching English, and reading, and writing, all of that stuff. So, that’s really when it started. And it’s funny because my supervisor when saw me doing this and she actually appointed me as the official advisor for the students to start my teaching hours. Yeah, so I got an extra job at the university to be an advisor for like 10 hours a week. She was like, ‘You would make an amazing life coach.’ And I was, ‘What the heck was that?’ You know, I didn’t have a clue. A life coach? Like people hire coaches to go through life, you know. I never really knew about it as a Turk.

But of course, I was familiar with like Tony Robins and you know, all the other like, Jim Rohn, Darren Hardy, I mean I read their books. I just never realize they were life coaches because they never really call themselves that. So, that’s really how it started. Of course my supervisor now, she probably hates the fact that she pointed that to me. Because now, I’m no longer working for her, you know. I started my business and that’s it. I took off. So, that’s really how it started. I realized that I have to start a business because if I wanted to do this forever you know, ’til the end of my life, that I have to sustain it, and that I would have to make a living with it, because if I’m doing something else on the side then I wouldn’t be able to give this my full attention. So, in order to sustain the journey, I realized that I have to you know, make a business out of it. And that’s how I really started becoming an entrepreneur, and I love it. I never thought I would say this, but I love having my own business and not have to work for somebody else.

Victoria: So, when you quit your job at the university, by this time you’d already had a sufficient customer base, and with just a matter of transitioning?

Yasemin: Yes, both. Okay, so basically, I started coaching officially in 2012, and I really held on to my job until December 2013. So there was more than a year of time where I had clients you know, come to me and you know. I started coaching and do one-on-one first, and then group coaching, and then started climbing to launch my first online course. And at that time, I also was pregnant with my baby. So it came at a very good time because I wanted to pull myself out of the university, but I was just like, ‘Ugh… It’s going to be so hard to do it.’ You know, like to give up that you know, ‘stable paycheck’ right? That comes in. You know you’re making an X amount every month. It’s not going to be you know, with entrepreneurialism, you don’t know how much you’re going to make a month, right? Kind of dive into the water and you’re like, ‘I hope I make something this month.’ You know?

Victoria: Exactly.

Yasemin: So, it was hard to let go of that. Honestly speaking, it took a lot of risk. But I think you know, when I got pregnant, I was like, ‘Okay, now is the time to give this a push.’ Like I need to really work on this before I have the baby, so that I’m ready to say you know, once I have the baby that I can really take off. Also for the sake of my child you know, with my older two kids, you know I have two older kids. I was never able to take off, honestly. And I took off for 6 months with one, took off for 9 months with the other one, but I had to go back to work, you know. And it always killed me inside, honestly. You know, you always have that mommy guilt, and I wanted to be home with the kids. I want to be able to do my thing and contribute in a way that would fit my lifestyle as a mom, and I couldn’t, you know. I had to go back to work. And with this baby, I was like, ‘Okay, now I have a job. I have a career that is not a job, that it’s more than that. It’s a calling in life, for me. So I think that really gave me the push to create my online course. And yes, definitely, I was able to replace my salary, and more, thank God. And I don’t have to go back to you know.

Don’t get me wrong, I love teaching. I will always be a teacher. But now I feel that the entire world is my classroom. Because when I teach online, I mean with this online course, The Dream Blueprint that I launched this past January. I had students from Malaysia, from Dubai, from all parts of Africa, Nigeria, and Cameroon, you know. So many countries that I’ve never even like I didn’t even know their exact location, honestly you know, and Maldives, you know. So many people, and I was like blown away because I was like thinking to myself, ‘Look at the impact that one can make when he or she becomes courageous enough to put themselves out there.’ You know? And that’s really why I became an entrepreneur. Not just to say, ‘Okay, I just want to make money.’ You know, I didn’t come with that thought. I just wanted to make a difference, make a huge positive dent in the world with my message. And of course yes, make a great living to support the journey, and to support myself and my family. And I think there’s no better time than this century, because we have everything with our availability now. With the technology we have, it’s unbelievable.

Victoria: Exactly. It’s easy to get started now. There are so many free tools, you  can just launch and get yourself going, with no money. Even if you don’t know what you’re doing, right away. And even that is pretty easy to find out, at least to get you to a certain point if you have absolutely nothing. It might take you a little bit longer, but then having someone to coach you and to guide you through the process. But the point is, it’s doable.

Yasemin: Exactly. It’s definitely doable.

Victoria: It’s definitely a lot easier than it was 10 years ago, and it’s just keeps getting easier.

Yasemin: Oh yeah, definitely.

Victoria: So, how has that been? I like to get into some of the mistakes that you said you made, like your biggest mistake you’ve said you made doing this whole entire journey.

Yasemin: Oh gosh! I actually love making mistakes because it pushes me to try harder the next time, you know. I’m kind of a learner. I’m not afraid of making mistakes. And I think that even started when I was young, when I learning languages, like when I start learning English, everybody around me like they were just so self-conscious about making a mistake, like pronouncing something wrong. And I was the kind of student, I was like, ‘I’m just going to pronounce it anyway.’ You know like, ‘Let me make a mistake so the teacher can correct me.’ And I think it’s very similar in the entrepreneurial world, you know. A lot of people kind of walk on egg shells? And you can’t. You have to take risks, of course calculated risks. I’m not saying put all your money into one thing, and then just totally blow it, but you have to take risks. So, oh gosh! Biggest mistake that I’ve ever made since I started coaching, since I started the business?

Victoria: Yes.

Yasemin: Okay. I guess the biggest mistake. The first mistake was I was in this paralysis analysis stage for some time that everything had to be perfect before I put it out there in the world. You know, as a coach right? I’m a high-performance coach, I’m a trainer, I’m a speaker. So I create videos, I create content for people to benefit from, right? And for me to create my first video took forever because I was just so self-conscious about how I looked, you know, the lighting, and how I sounded, like I don’t know. I was just so self-conscious, and I had to get over that. I was like, ‘Okay, my first videos are just going to suck.’ And I have to admit that, you know. Like I just had to come to terms with that and not worry about it. So I think the biggest mistake was like you know, wasting about 6 months trying to make that first video. You know what I mean? Just never really putting it out there, never really releasing it.

Victoria: How long was that video?

Yasemin: You know, let me tell you something. The first video was the first one that I ever made, like to tell people about Amplify Your Dreams. So many people responded to it in such a positive way. They were like, ‘Oh my gosh! This is so cool. So cool to see a Muslim woman doing this. Blah, blah, blah.’ Let me tell you about the second video that I made. So now I got this pump, you know. I said, ‘Yes! People are loving this movement.’ You know? And then there was this video contest for a huge event, you know Brendon Burchard’s Expert’s Academy. And I was like, ‘Okay, I want to make that video.’ And I found out about it literally 3 days before it was closing. You know, 3 days before the deadline that you have to submit your video.

Victoria: I remember you doing that.

Yasemin: What is it?

Victoria: I remember you doing that.

Yasemin: Yeah. So, 3 days before it was due, I found out about it. And it was busy time for us at the university. It was like midterms, so I had to prepare those things and you know, submit grades, and stuff like that. So I remember going to NC State with my camera, with my tripod, you know, and just going to, we had like a studio at the university. So I reserved that room. When in there, in between my classes, I only had 1 hour. So, I went in there, got into the room, recorded the video, recorded it in like half an hour, really, because I had to walk to my class. So I was like, ‘I don’t want to be super late.’ And record the video, came home, found an editor, ’cause I didn’t know about editing at that time. Now, I edit my videos, and asked the guy, ‘Please, I’ll pay you a little bit extra, just edit it for me. I need it by tonight.’ And I submitted it, literally 3 hours before the deadline, you know. It was Pacific Standard Time, the deadline, so it was my time, EST. I was able to submit it 3 hours before. And I won! I mean, I only did it just to like get the exposure. I wanted people to know I existed. And I also wanted to gain experience making videos. I never thought I was going to win, you know. I didn’t do it for you know, to win. But I did it, and I was like, ‘Oh my God!’ I was one of the 5 winners out of more than 1000 people who submitted.

Victoria: Do you still have that video?

Yasemin: I do, I do. Actually, it’s still on my YouTube channel. If you go to, the very first video that says ‘5 Steps to Amplify your Dreams’, that’s the video that I entered to win that contest. And it was amazing because first of all, I got to you know, attend Experts Academy for free. I mean, Brendon flew us out there. You know, he allowed me to bring  a guest, he took care of all of my expenses there at the event. It was just like, I was VIP, you know. It was just an amazing experience as an entrepreneur. And that was, I can tell you, very, very clearly that that was the breakthrough in my business. Because for the first time, I said, ‘I’m going to make it in this. I’m going to make it, In shaa Allah. You know, God willing. So, that was it. That was the breakthrough. It really gave me a jumpstart.

Victoria: And when you made this video, did you have any fancy equipment?

Yasemin: I did not have any fancy equipment. I mean like I said, I used the studio at the school, so we did have lighting. So, I used the lighting, but honestly, I didn’t even know how to do like diagonal whatever. I just put the lights you know, facing towards me, I had a tripod, I have a pretty good camera, I have a Nikon. So, I invested in a good camera, but it’s not the most expensive camera out there. And that was it! That’s what it was. I didn’t even have a fancy mic, honestly speaking. I had like a $20 mic, which was decent, but that was it. Yeah.

Victoria: And won the competition. Get out of here.

Yasemin: That’s right.

Victoria: I do remember that. I remember it. I didn’t realize, you know I had assumed that you had been doing all of this for a lot longer.

Yasemin: I had just started. I’m saying this not to brag, but to show like imagine I had not released that other video that pumped me up, that gave me that boost, that gave me the confidence, I’d probably would have never entered Brendon Burchard’s video contest. Because I would have been like, ‘Uh no, it’s not going to happen.’ You know? But because I had that confidence, I said, ‘You know what? Let me just submit. Let me now that I want to roll, let me make another video. And I’m so glad I did.

Victoria: And the thing is, most people are going to be, I mean, it has to be extremely horrible and even that, people are just not usually going to just hate it. Especially if you have something valuable to say, people are really into the content. They want help, and everything else is secondary.

Yasemin: Absolutely. I mean, when you look at you know, I don’t know, I’m a big fan of Marie Forelo for instance, you know a few others who are business gurus, when I look at their first videos, I’m like, ‘Oh my God! I can’t believe her videos were like this.’ And it shows you how far long they’ve come. And that’s the beauty of, you know I really believe in this you know, 10,000-hour rule or the, you know, 10 years, right? It takes that long to really master something. So, it’s normal that obviously, if you’re just learning how to swim, you’re not going to go and compete with the champions, you know. You’re just learning the frog style you know, the breast stroke or something. So, it’s very important to keep that in perspective and know that you’re learning, and be okay with it and not be self-conscious about it. And just say, ‘I’m learning. I’m better today than I was yesterday.’

Victoria: Exactly. That first day, and then you just take it one day at a time. You know, I think what trips everyone up when they see someone, they either they’re comparing where they are, to where someone else is. Not realizing that they’ve gone through the 10,000 hours already, and they sucked in the beginning.

Yasemin: I like to say, don’t compare yourself to someone else’s 20th chapter. You know, maybe you’re on the first chapter, but they’re on their 20th and you’re saying, ‘Oh my God! Look at her, she’s so much better.’ She has to be, she’s already 20 chapters ahead of you.

Victoria: She should be.

Yasemin: So, I think the idea is to compare yourself to yourself and look back and say, ‘How am I better today than I was last year?’ You know, I always do that at the end. Like I try to do it quarterly you know, in my business and say, ‘How am I doing better right now than I did last quarter?’ You know? And I think that’s very important. And I’m not just talking about financially, I’m talking about you know, emotionally or you know, whatever skill you’re trying to get. I think it’s very important to do that.

Victoria: Yeah. That’s excellent advice, and that’s why you’re the coach. But yeah, definitely those micro steps, they add up so quickly and before you know it, you turn around and you look back, and you say, ‘I can’t believe I did this.’ I mean, I really think coaches are needed, finding a good coach, finding the right coach, and finding someone that can really help you get there. And I think we’ve had this discussion before in the past, and I know you’re excellent, excellent at it. But finding a good coach is really a good investment.

Yasemin: Well, it is. I mean, I’m the kind of person, I never feel bad spending money on my coaches. You know what I mean? I attend so many seminars. I’m actually going to be attending High Performance Academy Coaching Certification this June in California. I’m coming to your state.

Victoria: Yes, in June. What date?

Yasemin: Yes, in Southern California. But you know, its okay.

Victoria: I know, everyone is coming to that.

Yasemin: Yeah, it’s always in Northern California. But so, it’s a huge investment, honestly. But I didn’t think even a second about it, you know. I was like this is an investment that I have to make. I owe it to myself and I owe to my clients. Because if I’m going to be 10xing my business, I need to be 10xing my learning, you know. I can’t be just like learning just online or just you know, with free stuff that’s out there. I need to be investing in the big courses that cost a lot of money, because those are the courses that will serve me you know, right now with what I’m doing, like I do High Performance coaching, so I have to get certified in High Performance. So, it’s something that I know that I needed, and I’m just so excited and you know, can’t wait to be there.

Victoria: Yeah, I mean, that’s going to be awesome. So, tell me a little bit, and just tell everybody what exactly is the High Performance Coaching? So they’ll have a good understanding of what you do.

Yasemin: So basically, you know, it’s helping you get to you know, like there’s the idea of peak performance, but what high performance is a little bit different, because high performance is really getting to a higher level in all areas of your life. So, whatever area you know, usually every person needs to work on a couple of areas of their lives. Maybe someone is financially stable, but maybe he or she lacks you know, in their connection with their loved ones, or maybe their health is suffering, or you know they have something that’s missing in their lives. Nobody has it all, right? So, high performance is really getting to a heightened level of energy and productivity in all areas of your life, and sustaining that. So now, going through like dips, not going through all these valleys and mountains. I mean, of course you always have a day or two that you may feel down, you’re not feeling yourself you know, you may be sick or something like that, that’s normal.

But usually, that you’re performing at your highest potential, and who doesn’t want that, right? That’s the kind of coaching that I do. Right now, I do 2 types of coaching, you know. I still do life coaching, which is based on the high performance strategies and personal development. But I also started doing business coaching, because I have a lot of clients who come to me and say, ‘I want to do what you’re doing.’ You know? So, now that I’m having this you know, for the past 6 months, I’ve been doing this more heavily even than life coaching. Because more people want to become an entrepreneur, more people want to learn how to become a coach, and then how do you sustain the journey? How do you actually make money with it, you know? So, I’m actually raising some really good entrepreneurs right now. It’s about 10-12 clients that I’m you know, coaching. And I like to keep it small because it’s more intimate that way, one-on-one. And yeah, it’s going really well.

Victoria: Wow, wow. That’s amazing. And just think just a few years ago, you were just…

Yasemin: I’m just starting myself.

Victoria: Just starting yourself, and now you are helping others launch theirs. That’s amazing.

Yasemin: Yeah, it’s crazy you know. But you know, when you think about it, now when I’m coaching them I’m like, ‘Yeah, 2 years ago I didn’t know this, but now its common knowledge to me, but it’s not common knowledge to them.’ Now, I take for granted like, of course I mean like, you use this and that to start an online course, you use this for your membership, like all the technology and how to do this and that. But even their basic questions like, ‘How do i make a video? How do I you know, start my YouTube channel? How do I get people to subscribe?’ So, even small details like that, it adds up.

Victoria: Yeah, especially when you’ve been in this business for so long, you forget that all of these things. I was talking to someone the other day and I said something and they said, ‘Okay, I don’t even know what that is.’ I said Oh my gosh! And I just had to bring it back, because I said I texted someone that I was starting a podcast.

Yasemin: They didn’t know what a podcast is.

Victoria: They didn’t know. And they were like, ‘Okay, what is a podcast?’ And then I was like, ‘Oh my gosh! Okay.’ But it’s not something that’s common knowledge to everybody.

Yasemin: I mean, I still have friends who are not entrepreneurs. Well, I even wrote this on my Facebook status today you know, I said, ‘It’s been a very busy year for me as an entrepreneur and as a mom. Only an entrepreneur mom could relate to me.’ You know? That’s really true, you know. Like sometimes, if I’m hanging out with a friend who’s not an entrepreneur, and if I’m telling her something, she’s like, ‘Oh, you don’t do that?’ I’m like, ‘I don’t have time for that.’ You know? Just sometimes you know, like whatever it is we have different priorities, we have different needs. And I think it’s very important to understand that about yourself, and to respect your priorities.

Victoria: That’s awesome. So, let me ask you, now that I’ve gotten your biggest mistake, which seems to be a mistake that we all make, or it keeps everyone from getting started, that analysis paralysis, the fear.

Yasemin: It’s never gonna to be a perfect day, or it’s never going to be the perfect moment. Like you just take the moment and you make the best out of it. I’ve really learned that. There’s n going to be no perfect moment to do something, like the right time, but you got to whatever you have, you know, whatever resources you have. You know, some people are like, ‘You know what? Let me save a little bit, like $20,000.’ You don’t need to save. Like keep your job, but start your dream career on the side. Start your dream business on the side. And then eventually, once that business brings in whatever you’re making, then you can say goodbye to your job that you didn’t really like, right? But wait to have the resources, that’s kind of like waiting for retirement. It’s not going to happen. You know, you really have to do whatever you have, whatever you can with whatever you have.

Victoria: Exactly. You have to just get out there and not be afraid, or even if you are afraid to just do it and see what happens. And then go running high.

Yasemin: [27:37] You know, courage is like, the word courage comes from French. Like Le ceur you know the heart. So, courage is to have the heart to do something, you know. And it doesn’t mean you’re not afraid, you’re actually sometimes scared to death, but you still do it anyway. You do it because you know  your WHY is so big that you have to do it. Just like a man who runs into a building that’s on fire because his baby is inside. You know what I mean? He’s going to run in there no matter what. He’s going to run in thinking, ‘I may die but it’s okay.’ He’s going to die trying to save his baby. And that’s better than staying outside, watching the baby die alone. You know what I mean? So, it’s just like that. When you have that entrepreneurial fire within you, you just have to do it. Otherwise, it’s kind of like, I don’t know, not breathing?

Victoria: It will kill you. It’ll literally eats you alive. I know, I was talking to someone about, I don’t know, they said something about you know, doing this and they’re retiring, and doing nothing. I’m like, ‘I don’t think that’s possible for entrepreneurs, because you just go on to something else, or you just keep doing stuff.’

Yasemin: Absolutely. I don’t think I will ever retire from coaching and speaking, and now I’m writing. I actually started writing for the Productive Muslim, and also, I’m working on my book. So you know, I want to be an author as well. So that means I want to do it ’till I die, because it what keeps me alive. It’s one of the things that it’s like, I don’t know, I just love it so much that I can’t imagine retiring from it.

Victoria: Yeah, and that’s what you know, we strive to get to, and it’s  not work anymore. It’s just play.

Yasemin: Yup, it’s a calling.

Victoria: It’s a calling, its fun, it’s empowering, it’s exciting, and you just wake up every day and you can’t wait to get started.

Yasemin: I know.

Victoria: It’s awesome. So how about, what do you think is your biggest, and I love asking this question, because the answers that I’ve gotten so far have been pretty similar. So, what do you say was your biggest achievement?

Yasemin: Biggest achievement, with my business, obviously.

Victoria: Yes, or even within the business and how it affected, just what does having this business has allowed? Or your biggest achievement with the business?

Yasemin: Okay, excellent. I think my biggest achievement has been two fold. So, one of them was the launch of my online course, which is The Dream Blueprint: Seven Steps to Fulfilling your Dreams in a World of Distractions. You know, I literally put my heart and soul into this course. I worked super hard on it, and created modules, and created the videos, and the content, and everything. It was my first online course. And I just wanted to add so much value. You know, I sold it $297. But really, the value that the course has, I made it equivalent to courses that I’ve taken that were more than a thousand dollars, you know. So, if you go into the backend of the course, you’ll be like, ‘Whoa! This was only for $297?’ And I think the biggest accomplishment was, my God, the launch went really well. I had a bunch of students registered. And not one single person returned it. I gave them a 15-day money back guarantee, you know. So they had 2 weeks to go through the modules and see if they liked it or not, and if they felt that it wasn’t worth the $297, that they would write back to me, email me, and I would gladly return their money back. And not one single person asked for a refund. So to me, that was huge. Because I was expecting, I was like, ‘There’s going to be at least maybe 3, 4, 5 percent who will ask their money back.’ You know, it’s normal right?

Victoria:  Only typical.

Yasemin: It’s typical. So, that was huge. I felt really good. And then after all the modules were released, you know it took about 7 weeks for all the modules to be released including all the bonuses, people just gave so much good feedback. I mean, feedback like, ‘Oh my God! This was like the best thing I’ve ever done. The best investment I’ve done. I can’t believe this was $297. You know, that you for like, pouring your heart into this.’ Like they felt the love that I put into the work. And for the first time, I felt like an artist. I really felt you know, my background is like, you know when I was in high school, I was in acting, You know, I used to do musical theatre. And I loved being on stage, not for the sake of being on stage and being popular. That’s not what it represented for me. What was awesome was the connection with the audience, you know. I discovered that I could make the audience cry, I could make them laugh. And there was that invisible magical connection with them that I just loved.

And that was probably the hardest thing for me to let go as I became or practicing Muslim and not being on stage and acting like that. And I felt for the first time, that same feeling with my students. I just felt that magical connection. And I felt, ‘Oh my God! That was so worth it.’ You know, I’ll tell you. It was not easy to do the launch. I have 3 kids. One was a baby, like I mean she’s still a baby during the launch period. I was shooting my videos. I was doing all the content. Thank God for a very supportive husband. And you know, he would literally bring her to me like, ‘Okay, she really wants to be nursed.’ You know? I would only take breaks like to feed my child. You know like, it was very intense schedule. And literally my husband took over like for 2-3 months, he took over the entire house, like cooking, and cleaning, and taking care of the kids, and doing everything. And I was just like locked up in my office, doing my stuff. So I feel like as a mom, having done that was a huge accomplishment also.

And one thing my kids told me after the launch, they were like, ‘We’re so proud of you, mom. You did it.’ ‘Cause they heard me talk about it, they were like, ‘Okay, is anybody buying your course?’ You know, they were excited that students were signing up, you know. And it was just like the whole family was involved. And both of my sons now, they keep telling me they’re like, ‘I’m going to be an entrepreneur, definitely. I’m not getting a 9 to 5 job.’ You know? I was like, ‘Listen, I mean, I’m not pushing you it has to be your decision.’ ‘Oh yeah, yeah, I’m definitely going to be an entrepreneur.’ You know? I think that’s a good accomplishment too.

Victoria: Yeah, you know and it’s interesting because all of the ones I’ve talked to so far who had kids, that’s been a major breakthrough for them in terms of seeing how it affects their children, and getting their children excited about entrepreneurship, and helping them to discover what good at, and even get started themselves.

Yasemin: And also I think, to teach them like for example, when it’s Tuesday you know, I do Transformational Tuesday. So, usually on Tuesday I’m uploading the video I shoot it on the weekend or like Friday. You know, it depends on which day I shoot it. But Tuesday I’m usually like, uploading it, you know writing my email to my subscribers and stuff like that. So my kids know, they’re like, ‘Oh, today is Transformational Tuesday, make sure you send that email. They’re waiting for it.’ You know, I like the fact that they honor the promises, you know. I told them that I said, ‘People are expecting this from me, so I have to send it to them.’ You know? And it’s something I like to teach my kids. You know, to keep your promises. If you promise you’re going to do something, you do it. Unless you’re dying, obviously, orr you’re really sick or something, that’s different.

Victoria: Yes, yes. That’s amazing. So, $297, the 7-week course, and no refunds, that’s amazing and in and of itself. And I don’t know if everyone knows that transition, especially when you’re taking an online coaching course, it allows you to be able to help more people.

Yasemin: Absolutely. I mean, the way I did it with this course you know, it’s on Kajabi, which is an amazing platform. I just love, love Kajabi. So whoever purchased the course, they were able to get into it, access the videos at their you know, convenience, whenever they to watch the videos, download the PDF documents to do the exercises that I’ve given them. And just you know, overall, just have an amazing experience. There is a platform, you know there’s a form where they can interact with each other, ask questions, comment on things, and also I can send the messages like to the entire group of students. So, it’s an amazing platform to connect with like-minded people.

Victoria: I have to check it out. I’ve heard you talk about it before, but I haven’t checked that out, right. I haven’t checked it out yet, and mine is not quite ready yet anyway. Not at the top of my never-ending list of things to do, but it is on my watch list. So, what advices would you have for any entrepreneurs that are getting started, or even entrepreneurs that have already started?

Yasemin: Okay, a bunch of advice that I hope that they can take home and really implement. So, the first thing is something I mentioned but I’m just going to touch up on it again is, if you have a job, even if you absolutely hate it, you can’t wait to leave it, I would say hold on to it, because starting a business takes money. You know, you have to invest a little bit at the beginning, right? Even just going and registering your business you know, getting your website done, getting your business cards done, getting headshots you know. All of these things require cash, right? So you need to be able to sustain that. And that was one smart thing that I did. I didn’t just quit teaching at the university, no. I kept my job and I actually never even thought about quitting, until I saw that I really want to do this fulltime, and that I could not be teaching and coaching fully, and also be a mom, you know. Like I need to sleep sometime, right? So, I figured I couldn’t do everything at the same time. I would say keep it you know, keep your sustenance, basically. That cash flow, let it come in. Start your bream business on the side. And it takes about 2 years you know, to really get things up and running, to really make a considerable amount of money you know, in your business. So I think it’s very important to be patient, and not think you’re going to make millions you know, right away. That’s not going to happen. So it’s very important to have that patience.

Second thing is invest in yourself, you know. Again, of course you have to have the money to invest in yourself. But you know, do whatever you can, like for me, as I started, I cut from other stuff, you know. Like when I was investing in courses, that meant I’m not eating out, I’m not buying any new clothing that season. You know what I mean? Like I cut from other stuff to make sure that I was investing in a course that I knew I needed to become the best coach, the best speaker that I could possibly be, right? So, invest in yourself, you know, hire a coach, go to seminars, meet like-minded people, and that brings me to the third thing.

Surround yourself with people who are like-minded. Because you know, as entrepreneurs, we’re on a different edge here, right? We’re not the status quo. I know some people would call us weird. I like to call us extraordinary.

Victoria: Exactly.

Yasemin: So, we have different needs. We have different things that make us happy. So, I think it’s very important to connect with people who have the same vibe, who read the same kind of books, who go to same kind of events. And I think we can learn from them, they can learn from us. And that’s something I really find very, very important on my list. I mean, that’s really what kept me, I think going for the past 3 years. That’s what sky-rocketed my business in a way. Having those you know, like yourself, we met online and we started talking, you know. Like you, I found some other people on Facebook who entrepreneurs connected with, those women. And we helped one another, you know, launched our courses. So that’s crucial, because if you’re just in your little circle of people who are doubters and they’re going to tell you, ‘What are you doing now? Starting business? Oh come on!’ You know, like just do what your thing, right? They’re going to pull you down.

Victoria: “Are you gonna leave tht job, are you insane?

Yasemin: Yeah, exactly. All my teacher friends thought I was insane. They were like, ‘What are you, crazy?’ Now I tell them, I mean, one of them, she was like, ‘Are you coming back?’ I was like, ‘Why would I come back? I make the same kind of money in a week that I was making in a month.’ You know? Would you go back? I don’t think so. So, they don’t think it’s possible. So they will keep you thinking small as well. So you need to surround yourself with people who will give you the room to think big, to dream big, and that’s crucial.

Victoria: Crucial, crucial, crucial, and that is such an important point to make your surroundings are everything. And now it’s easy because you can find these people online, even if they’re not in your immediate circle.

Yasemin: Absolutely, one close friend in Canada, another close friend in UK. I mean, you’re in California, right? So, all these people. I don’t really have anybody near me, where I live, who is an entrepreneur, okay? Like, really. So, for me, my connection is online, and that’s okay. That’s perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You can connect with people on Skype, Google Hangout, you name it, you know, Oovoo, whatever platform you want to meet, you can meet them.

One last advice, and I think this is huge. It’ probably the best, is to take really good care of yourself, you know. What I mean by that, take care of yourself physically, mentally you know, emotionally, spiritually, your health, right? ‘Cause you are your most important asset. So if you pour everything into your business, and then your health is like totally going down the drain, obviously you’re not going to have the energy to do anything good with your business.

Because now, you know, you’re not healthy anymore, right? Or the same thing with your relationships you know, you wrecked your relationships and you’re making millions, who cares? Like I could care less, you know. I’d rather make $40,000 a year and have and amazing relationships than have millions of dollars a year, and have nobody to share it with, right? So, I mean you can’t let one thing go on the expense of the other. So I think it’s very important to, I don’t really like the word balance because I don’t really believe there is necessarily a balance. Sometimes you have to focus on one thing more than the other. You know, if you have a launch going on, you have to focus on that launch. But after the launch, you take a break, you know. You enjoy your time with your family and stuff. But really taking good care of your health, watching what you eat, you know like eating only good wholesome food, and just exercising a lot. ‘Cause entrepreneurs, we spend a lot of time at our desks, and in front of the computer, right? So making sure, I mean, I have a morning routine which really works great for me. And you know, if don’t do my morning routine; I’m not as productive. So for me, I have to do my morning routine, and it’s between the hours of 5 to 8. You know, it’s like the morning time. I’m a morning person. I wake up early. But even if you’re not a morning person, you could wake up at 6, 7, 8, you can still you know, do maybe less of what I do. But start your day, jumpstart it amazingly so you’re ready to work, you’re in the zone.

Victoria: Yeah, yeah. I know, if I don’t have certain things in place in the morning, then my whole day just seems to go right down the hill. Meaning, I’ll go through the day and I can’t look back and say, ‘What did you accomplish today?’ Not on a scale to where I get up and I have everything lined-up, and I just power through it. And sometimes, I look its 2 o’clock and I’ve done so much. And then another day, its 6 o’clock and I’m thinking, ‘What did I do today?’

Yasemin: Yeah. Well, we all have one of those days.

Victoria: So I have those every now and then. So, it’s definitely important to have that routine. That’s one of my biggest challenges too, is taking a break, because I enjoy it so much. And when you enjoy it so much, you can forget. You just don’t want to stop, and you think, ‘Will I have to go out to go to the gym?’ Or you know, unless you have it at home, but you just don’t want to stop, and I have to just physically pencil in it. And what makes me do it? I don’t like having things on my list that are not checked off. You know, you think of things to force yourself to comply. And if you know what makes you do things, then I look at my list and see that line that’s not crossed off, and I was like, ‘Oh my gosh!’ That means you didn’t do anything, even though 10 other things are crossed off, now it’s sitting there just staring you in the face. So then, you got to get up and go.

Yasemin: Absolutely, absolutely.

Victoria: That’s just me though. Most people probably don’t have, I don’t know what they have, but I know that’s what works for me. So, how about any books?

Yasemin: I think one of the best books, for me I have a bunch of favorites. But I just really love going back to The Compound Effect by Darren Hardy. It’s one of the must-haves. It really talks about getting in the zone. You know like, gaining momentum and just jumpstarting your income, your life, your everything, you know, your relationships. And I think it’s a very powerful book. I’ve used it many, many times in my coaching. My clients love it. Whoever I recommended it to, love that book.

I also love the Power of Focus. It’s not necessarily a book on business, you know. But it teaches you how to you know, as an entrepreneur, right? You could have so many interests. You could be like all over the place. And I think it’s very important to learn the power of focus. So that way, you can focus on what truly matters. You know, the 80/20 Principle, which is another great book. But you know, the Power of Focus gets into balance well. Like, teaches you on what to focus and how to do that, you know, avoiding distractions. So, those are 2 really good books. I recently got, I haven’t read it yet, but The Entrepreneur’s Solution by Mel Abraham, so that looks to be a very, very good book. I’ll be reading that once I’m done. I try to read about a book a week. Usually, I’m reading 2 books at a time. Like let’s say, something spiritual, you know, something Islamic, and maybe you know, definitely a personal development or a business marketing book. So, right now I’m reading 2 books. But after that, I’m going to be reading the Entrepreneur’s Solution. So, I’ve heard it’s a really great book as well. Yeah, I mean, there’s so many books out there.

Victoria: I know, and that’s what kills me, because the books, I love books, love books. And I’ll pick up one, but it starts my ideas flowing, and then I have to put it down because of my focus, ’cause I have an issue with focus.

Yasemin: So you got to read the Power of Focus.

Victoria: So, when it comes to focus, I have to have things in place to force me to focus. Because I get excited about so many things and then I’m off to the races. And before you know it, I got 12 different things going on.

Yasemin: It’s what you need to work on. That’s a great start, you know.

Victoria: Yeah, yeah. I look at my productivity and I’m thinking, ‘Okay, you should be here, and you’re here. What did you do?’ And then, you know, kind of work it and make sure that I give myself incentives and treats, and all of these things. I got a whole system going on.

Yasemin: I also like the Personal MBA, that’s a really good book too.

Victoria: Personal MBA?

Yasemin: Yeah, it’s a great business book, definitely.

Victoria: Okay, I haven’t heard of that one, awesome. So now I have a whole library to check out.

Yasemin: Yes.

Victoria: Some awesome stuff. Wow, you gave a lot of great information and advices today. And I’m so excited because I’m hoping, I don’ know, when are you planning to open up Amplify Your Dreams again?

Yasemin: The Dreams’ operate actually right now,. It is on, it is running. So if anybody wants to go to www.thedreamblueprint, so that’s just the dream blueprint, .com, they will be able to you know, sign up for free to access the free videos. So there’s like a 3-video training series, which have gotten so many amazing comments, and just so many emails, Facebook messages from people, people really benefitted. So, they can opt-in you know, go to, opt-in to watch those videos, and the course is actually open right now. I’m not doing a big launch until the end of this year, but they could go ahead and purchase it if they wanted to. Or at least you know, watch the free videos and you know, benefit from that.

Victoria: Okay, I thought you had closed it.

Yasemin: I did close it, but then people asked for it, you know. So I was like, you know what? After some time, I did reopen, after about 3 months. I may close it again, you know. You’ll never know, but I will do one major launch again at the end of this year, most likely, or some time beginning of next year. But I’m working on another course right now. Something, I’ll keep it a secret maybe. So people will be surprised when it comes out. But also, if people wanted to get another free resource from me, they can go to, and if they again, sign up for free, they’ll receive a short sweet video every week that is transformational. I really to make it very succinct to the point, and just something that’s you know, that they may not have thought of.

Victoria: Yeah, and they’re pretty awesome, if I must say so.

Yasemin: Thank you. I’m glad you like it.

Victoria: Yeah, sometimes, I reply to you. But then I said, ‘You know what? I shouldn’t be replying to her.’

Yasemin: I love replies. I love it. It really makes me so happy to see that people are watching them, and benefiting from them. I actually do my best to reply to you know, most of the messages at least. It’s always great to hear from people. I love it. You reply, yeah.

Victoria: Yeah, that’s what I’ll do.

Yasemin: Whenever you feel the urge to.

Victoria: Yes. So we will put those up. One is the, and that has the actual course. And the other is, And that’s Tuesday, yes. Not Transformational Tuesdays, because I would do something like that. I get them in my email, so I don’t have to go to the site.

Yasemin: Yes, absolutely.

Victoria: So they just come and shoe up on Tuesdays, so I’ve never been into that particular site.

Yasemin: Yeah, you probably singed up somewhere else, and that’s how you received my emails.

Victoria: Yeah, so awesome. So, you go there and sign up, and they’ll just come to you. And you don’t have to remember to go to the site.

Yasemin: Exactly, and I send other stuff too. I mean you know, sometimes, from time to time, if there’s like an amazing course out there, I’ll promote it. Because if I’m signing up for a course, I’ll let people know. Like right now, there’s a course going on, and I already signed up for it. So, I like to let other people know too. You know, some people are like, ‘Why would you tell people who you study with?’ I’m like, ‘Because I don’t like to keep that stuff secret.’ You know, if I’m learning from someone, and he’s my mentor, I love sharing that information. I have no problem, no reservation sharing it. I believe that there is so much abundance out there that, if I’m learning something from someone, I would want my subscribers, my friends to learn from that person too. Because you know, everybody teaches differently, so I never feel like I’m going to lose my clients if I’m referring them to my coach, right? I never feel that way. So yeah, so sometimes I send messages like that too. Like if I feel there’s something worthy of being recommended, I do that.

Victoria: Absolutely, absolutely. Definitely share and it comes back to you.

Yasemin: It does.

Victoria: It does come back, and you’re not going to get what you’re not anyway and it’s just sharing. And I share that kind of stuff, I get excited and I share it, and don’t think anything of it.

Yasemin: I mean, like I remember one time being coached, and the person wouldn’t even tell me like what books should I read, and what should I do. That’s what I got turned up, I was, ‘I don’t think I want to work with this coach anymore because this coach is not sharing information that’s useful for me.’ You know what I mean? So I try my best to share whatever I learn, with my clients, you know. I’ll tell them everything that I know will benefit them, you know, every little tip and trick, here and there. Because why should I hide to myself? I mean, they’re paying me to help them, so why am I going to withhold the knowledge, right? That would be kind of stingy.

Victoria: It would be kind of stingy, which goes back to another conversation we had before. You have to find the right coach, because being a coach is just not sufficient. And I’ve never heard of this with not sharing, but I’ve had coaches who were more or less what Hibah calls or what Monica calls bullying.

Yasemin: I don’t want a bully coach, definitely. And you know what I do with like, my one-on-one clients who you know, approach me and say, ‘Hey, I really want your coaching service. I want to be coached.’ I always do a 15-minute call with them, just to see if we’re compatible, you know. I think it’s very important before you get into a big commitment, where they would be investing their time and money, and I respect that. You know, if someone decides to like invest in themselves, they need to know who they’re working with, very closely, right? So, I give them that chance. And in 15 minutes, unusually we talk more than 15 minutes, like 20-25 minutes, but it really makes a difference, you know. Sometimes, I personally feel, ‘I don’t think we can work together.’ You know? So I think it’s very important to be able to give that to your clients because not everyone is compatible with everybody else. So, it’s very important to know your style.

Victoria: Yes, exactly. That’s a crucial point, and I think when you lose that abundance mindset or this, you have a very selfish mindset that you just want to keep everything to yourself. And It doesn’t help you, and it doesn’t help anyone else.

Yasemin: Nope, absolutely.

Victoria: So if you can tell them upfront that this is probably not going to be a working relationship, or maybe we’re not compatible. Then it saves them time so that they can find someone that is compatible. And it saves you the heartache, it saves them the heartache. It’s a liberating process because it helps them. I learned that because when I started my entrepreneurship business, you know I didn’t look to go into it to be a service provider for other companies. It kind of just…

Yasemin: Just happened.

Victoria: It just kind of happened. And I reluctantly moved into it because I just wanted to do my online stuff, and I didn’t really want to do it. Not that I don’t want to help people, it just wasn’t an aspiration of mine at that particular time. I kind of moved into it because there was so much discourse and so much happening in the industry, that I felt now, I have to do it. And I love it.

Yasemin: I love that.

Victoria: I love it. And I love what I do but then there are certain clients that I don’t feel that they would get the best of my services for whatever reason. And maybe someone else’s most suitable to help them, depending on who they are, what they’re looking for. And I do my best to help them but at the same time, if I know that they’re not going to get the results because of whatever reason from working with me, then I know now to let them know upfront. I didn’t know that when I started out, doing this. ‘Cause that another whole learning curve, and it took me a few years to kind of realize, like certain differences. You know, while looking at some clients, they got amazing results, and some clients that didn’t seem where the disconnect was. And it really came down lot of times to different ways of thinking it. And you know, you and the client, you have to both be on the same page. Like for instance, if someone comes to you, and they’re not coachable.

Yasemin: Or they’re not committed, like ]. But they think it’s just going to happen by magic, you know. They’re not willing to put in the effort. And I made that very clear from the get-go like, ‘Okay, listen. This is very intensive. You’re going to have to do the stuff that I tell you to do. You’re going to have to read the books that I tell you to read. I mean, it’s not going to happen overnight, you know. If you want to change, you really have to put in the effort. So at the end of the day you know, you know that you’ve done the work, and you’re not going to blame let’s say, me for not coaching you well.’ Right? Because if you don’t implement the stuff you learn, you know, I always say this knowledge is not power knowledge, its potential power, you know. If you don’t implement the knowledge that you learn, it’s useless.

Victoria: Exactly.

Yasemin: It’s useless. I mean, you can have the best car, if it doesn’t have gas, you can’t drive it. So, it’s the same thing. And I always make that very clear. And the kinds of clients that I have are very committed. And those are the kind of people I love working with, you know. When I see a certain name on my calendar, like on my planner, I get excited when I see the names of my clients. Before, when I first began, I would see some names and I was like, ‘Ugh! No! Were going coaching her today!’ You know? Not because I don’t like the person, but it was because the sessions were just not going the way I wanted it. So, I’ve learned my lesson, that I only now attract the kind of clients that I like. And I had to work on my messaging to get that, to get to that level. And yeah, and I guess when I say to people that’s intensive, that you’re going to have to work hard, it already repels the ones who don’t want to put in the effort. You know, they say, ‘Oh, I don’t think I can put in that many hours.’ You know?

Victoria: And you find these ways to attract and repel, and it just boils down to, ‘Look, if you want results, you’re going to… And again, I’m the provider.’ Right? So they expect me to deliver. And in order for me to deliver, you have to allow me to do what I do.

Yasemin: That’s right.

Victoria: You have to allow me to work. You have to allow me to work my magic. But if you’re constantly not allowing me to do this, then it’s just not going to work. And now I know how to decipher who that will be, and I know who that will be upfront. You know?

Yasemin: Absolutely.

Victoria: And then I could just say, ‘Well, there is someone out there that can help you, it’s just not me.’

Yasemin: Yeah, I’ve had that happened too. I’ve referred a couple of clients to someone who can help them, you know. They had different needs. Like I don’t work with people who need therapy, you know. I don’t work with people who’ve been through trauma, and through abuse, and you know, I don’t work with those kind. I’m not equipped to work them. I’m not certified to work with them. So, I’m very honest, you know about that. And I refer them immediately to other coaches that I know who work with such particular clients, and who can really help them, ’cause I’m not in it for the money. Like it’s easy for me to take on a client and say, ‘Oh sure, I’ll help you with it.’ And charge them, but that’s a disservice to those clients, and would hate to do that.

Victoria: Yeah. And I think that’s important for, even entrepreneurs starting out. You got to learn this in the journey anyway, but if you make it about serving, to begin with, you’re going to naturally, it was natural for you anyway, but some of it you just not going to know, you just going to have to learn it. I thought I was in it to serve, and I just thought as long as they trusted me and let me do what I do, then it was going to be ok. But then, there’s some who just, they just have a different way of thinking. It is not bad. It serves them very well in their careers, and what they do is part of their makeup. However, in the business I’m doing, I need for them to let me do what I need to do. And sometimes, it just doesn’t really go, because they want to control something that they don’t understand. You know?

Yasemin: Yeah, absolutely.

Victoria: And if you want to control and tell me how to do my job, when you have no information, things that I’ve developed over 13 years, then it’s going to be a little bit of a problem there. And then you have on other side, its like, ‘Okay, I don’t understand. I need some help. Let’s get it done.’ So, it’s just different modes of thinking or whatever. And if I know that I’m not going to be able to deliver, I won’t start. I won’t waste their time, and won’t waste mine. And they appreciate it, they really appreciate it because they’re honoring who they are, and I don’t want them to be anyone different. It’s just that for different companies, let’s say in my case, they would have to relinquish that particular part of the decision making to another department or something to where they’re not dealing with, but some companies don’t have already. The owners are everything. So they don’t have another person to pass that off to. So when they don’t have that, then you know, you got to come back and do what you do. So, it’s definitely, for new entrepreneurs or anyone, really realize that the money, you can get the money with great feedback, great clients, clients that you can help, or you can get it with a bunch of everybody.

Yasemin: It’s not something like that.

Victoria: It’s not fun. It’s not fun. And I think you know, sometimes that’s part of the journey. But if you have that heads up and upfront, it kind of helps you at least to be able to look out for it and to try to mitigate it as much as possible.

Yasemin: I mean, I think when you’re just starting out, you may take people because you’re just starting out you really need the cash. And I think I fell into that trap when I first began. But I realized right away, within the first couple of months, I realized who I like to work with, and who I’m really passionate about coaching, and who I don’t like to work with, right? And again, there was nothing wrong with those clients.

Victoria: Exactly.

Yasemin: It’s just that I did not work well with them because they had a different set of mindset, they had a different outlook in life, and they were not really looking to be coached, but they wanted a therapist who’s going to cry with them. And a coach doesn’t sit and cry with you. A coach coaches you, tell you, you know, what you need to be doing, you know without of course bullying, like you were saying. You know, I would never want to be a bully. But you know, encouraging, motivating, inspiring and telling them they can do it, and giving them a course of action to follow, and keeping them accountable, you know. But not sitting and crying because their week didn’t go right. Then I said to myself, ‘You know what? I cannot be desperate for clients. I need to be picky. I need to choose my clients.’ And then I started doing the 15-minute coaching calls, and really started basically, in a way, screening them. When I screen them, it just worked out so beautifully. And like you said you know, if your heart is about serving people, it just becomes so much easier to make this a sustainable journey financially. Because when you come from a place of service, the cash flow comes in anyway.

Victoria: Exactly. It just comes. And it comes in from people, and you’re actually helping people. So it’s just something to keep in the back of your mind, because it’s good to have those clients. I owe so much to them. And some of them you know, even today, they’re telling me, ‘It’s you or no one.’ I won’t take any more of them. And we’ve gone through our ups and downs, but they don’t trust anyone else. And so now, we just have, ‘Okay, if we’re going to work together, you have to listen to me or something. Or let me help you they way I helped you.’ And so they have to be willing in order to move forward. They have to be willing to put aside this part, but I’ll only do a certain amount. I won’t do a full on service or something. So I only have a couple of those, but at the same time, they allowed me to grow.

Yasemin: That’s awesome.

Victoria: They allowed me to know what I should do and what I should not be doing. I value them and I thank them all the time, because they really made me into who I am. So I definitely value them, it’s just that you don’t want to build your business. In a way to where you accepting everything and you feel like you have to, in order to make money, because that’s just not the case. So that was the whole point of this whole rant, because I think all of us fall into it. It’s just when you can’t dig yourself out of it, because you think your business and your livelihood depends on it.

Yasemin: Absolutely.

Victoria: That was the point of that whole rant. So, it’s awesome. I’ve kept you, oh my gosh! Over an hour. And that’s because it’s been a wonderful conversation.

Yasemin: Yeah. Thank you. Victoria. I really enjoyed it. It felt great. I hope that people who are listening, tuning into this will really get a lot of benefit out of it. And you know, I would love to see so many people being inspired, and going out there and starting their entrepreneurial journey.

Victoria: Yes, yes. And we’re going to put all these links on our blog, or in our website. It’s that’s O as an orange. 2, the number. E as in elephant, And if you want to do a search for Yasemin podcast, you can do it by Amplify Your Dreams, you can do it by the Dream Blueprint, or you can do it by Transformational Tuesday, and it will pop up. And it will have all the links and all of resources she mentioned here, and ways for you to reach out. I know you have Facebook too.

Yasemin: I love to connect I mean, sometimes people have questions. I’m very open to answering questions on Facebook, so if they come to my page, my public page, not my personal profile, but public page and send me a message. I’m usually pretty good with returning those messages within 24-48 hours, depending on how many messages are in there that day.

Victoria: Okay, and that is

Yasemin: Borntomakeadifference, B-O-R-N to make a difference.

Victoria: Okay, so we will update that as well, so you won’t have to go writing and remembering everything. Just remember one search term, either Amplify Your Dreams, The Dream Blueprint, Transformational Tuesday, all of them will link you to this interview and all of the resources. So you’ll be fine. Because you know, we that emails and, ‘I can’t remember, I was listening to it while I was driving and I don’t remember what it was.’ So, there you go. And I like to thank you again for coming on and sharing so much of your wisdom. I got my notes over here, my nuggets, that I take notes on and that I need to remember myself. It’s been awesome.

Yasemin: Thank you so much for having me. It was an honor. I really am very, very happy to tap down this interview with you.

Victoria: Thank you so much! And you have a wonderful day.

Yasemin: You too, thanks. Bye!

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